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Howdy! Are you a human or a bot? My first encounter with you was on my Talk page (linked in my signature) You seem to be doing a whole lot of work on the wiki and I just wanted to say thanks, either way. If you're a bot, I'd love to make you a User Page. If you're a human, I might do the same. Pleased to make your internet acquaintance. --Eugene (talk) 07:04, 14 February 2016 (PST)
- Wow, I'm honored! I hope I do the title proud!--Eugene (talk) 10:53, 15 February 2016 (PST)
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- Do not worry about that error message. Wikimedia was updated on October 16 to 1.24 by an unknown user, most likely, an automated action at Dreamhost. The Skin autodiscovery mechanism is no long used to load default skins, and it produces this error. At the time, I had to go into the database to fix blockbuster issues that prevented users from logging into the website. This required adding new columns that did not exist in the database after the update. The database is very large, so there must have been a failure during the update. Updates should never be performed before the database has been backed-up, however, this was not the procedure used. Anyways, everything appears to be working properly. I would consider moving the wiki to one of my servers if the hosting costs would be covered. --PositiveSpin (talk) 23:14, 15 February 2016 (PST)
- Thanks for answering that question, PositiveSpin! I think someone made an agreement with the Alliance for Biking and Walking at some point that they'd pay for our hosting, but in January I went and visited the site and noticed it was down, and it turns out it was because they hadn't paid the bill, so Godwin just paid it. Godwin and Momoko cleared out thousands of spambot users a couple years ago and revamped the website entirely. If you want details of recent bikecollectives & bikebike web development history, do a search for godwin in the think tank archives. He's not the only person who does the tech stuff, but it's a good search term. He's redoing the website part in Ruby right now and it's going to be up in a couple weeks, actually. --Angel York (talk) 23:49, 15 February 2016 (PST)
giving a user access to "bot" lets them run prescribed automated scripts. It would be up to Godwin to do some work in the sql backend (external to the wiki interface). --Eugene (talk) 16:03, 15 February 2016 (PST)
- now that we are bots nobody can see our edits. Should we not be bots and instead make a bot?--Eugene (talk) 06:42, 21 February 2016 (PST)
I think we need both approaches, and I think both approaches are answers to the same questions. "How do we keep our comrades safest?" I think that at times it's best to gather our power and have secret cabals and to come up with secret language. I think that you are also doing very important work, both of recon and also of spreading the good word of "be a goddamn decent human being". I honestly don't believe that one can exist without the other. I think that keeping our most vulnerable away from the things that make them hurt is important work. I also think educating the ones doing the harm is important work as well. I'll tell you about this cool kid at our community open shop the next time I get access to the internet. --Eugene (talk) 21:06, 20 February 2016 (PST)
- my usual answer to "what work?" is "literally all the work. we need it all."--Eugene (talk) 21:10, 20 February 2016 (PST)
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